Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children). Do not try to debate the mod on your interpretation of the rules. My old Corporal was prior Army before he joined up. I guess I can understand how things would be pretty different for a chief's course though. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Bialy joined the Marine Corps to save people and help them. In one unit I was with we lost about 1/3 of our NCOs to Drill Instructor or Recruiting Duty every year. They are probably right, trying to do corrective training is likely to be ineffective and worthless. Mainly because they don't have the border around the ribbons like Army awards. [–]sephstorm[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children). [–]throwtowardaccount2111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). I saw dicked up Marines on deployment, but it's not like I don't take them seriously. Recent reposts will be removed. Just because a rule is not listed does not mean we cannot enforce it (i.e. By Leader Staff Reports July 24, 2018. I walked it from person to person in the company, it took 2 months to get across the street. Formerly known as the Blue to Green Program, the Inter-Service Transfer (IST) program will allow you to continue to serve your country, maintain the benefits of military service and expand your horizons by gaining new training in another military branch. They would also PT us on the days when SSgt didn't/couldn't. I remember some officer coming into my area and I bellowed "Attention on deck!" [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children). Depending on MOS not much should be different other than the overall culture... you will probably wonder what to do with yourself with so much time off... that’s the main things I’ve heard from PS Marines that I have enlisted into the Army. The Marines lost 15,000 men out of a total of 50,000 American victims. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). ex. r/Military: The largest military subreddit on reddit. Marines have built up one heck of a reputation of being an elite fighting force and never backing down from a fight. I could herehear when my battle buddy thought he saw something and put his rifle on fire. The responses were alarmingly consistent. Yeah, they had their own rooms and different rules (libo, they could have alcohol, etc...) but for the most part they filled the same role that NCOs fill in the fleet. Lol when I did get out my paperwork got signed off by the wrong person, they started processing me out and everything "oh wait, the wrong person signed it. Just follow the herd and you will be fine. General Information - Enlisted MOS Conversion List (Marine) Click the Warrant Officer MOSs below to see the duty description, prerequisites, and preferred qualifications. Military/Veteran Crisis Line - 1-800-273-TALK (8255) - Press 1 or text 838255 or click here for 24/7 confidential online support from a caring, qualified VA professional. The III Amphibious Corps, which had replaced the IMAC, supported the army operations on Okinawa and consisted of the 1st, 2nd and 6th Marine Divisions. I was not prepared for how different our cultures were. no PM version. We can make exceptions for non-profit organizations but please send us a message before posting. So are the other guys calling out non combat MOS dudes. Standing at attention for Officers is uncommon, usually PR. Now on Active duty. Emory Healthcare Veterans Program Free expert & collaborative care for post-9/11 Veterans who suffer from the invisible wounds of war which is funded by the Wounded Warriors Project & Emory University. We stopped them and our command told them what's up. 3/23 was deployed to Iraq in 2003 and served primarily in the Wasit Province of Iraq. There's very little of the customs and courtesies. TRADOC has its own rules that exist virtually outside of the Army. So, to recap, an army is a ground force, while marines … Standing at parade rest for NCO's isn't consistent at all, and this continues into the RA, highly dependent. Chances are you will have no ability to counsel a soldier or do anything else the army says you can do to a normal soldier. When I was trying to get a release at one point I had read the regulation. My tiny understanding from things I have read is that you get to your base and process there, as opposed to going directly to your assigned unit and in-processing with them, correct? Since then, I just can't take them seriously. The Army convoy...fucking shitbags. What an undisciplined nasty group of little shits we had to deal with. They never had any problems at all. [–]sephstorm[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child). People like him are probably the reason why the Army does it that way. The Chaos Space Marines army has several strengths that will impact how you build your army. Of course the punishment capabilities change and you aren't going to get away with cursing out an NCO, but chances are they aren't going to take you out back, you'll get a counseling, maybe some UCMJ. DONT try to get around the rules, the IETs will probably run to cadre and you will get shit for it. Rule 3. I went through my schoolhouse in 2010, and like I said the NCOs in our class handled everything, including field day. The guy looked at me like I was crazy for a minute before smirking and noting I was a former Marine. Next, Marines move on to their career-specific training. So why did you decide to switch branches anyway and did it end up being what you were looking for? Id rather be in underpants than the UCP abominations that were the Army standard "back in my day". I’ve literally never reported anywhere in anything other than utility uniform since I joined in 2004. Hold on, we need to resubmit..", [–]_From_The_Internet_0656 2000-2004 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago* (5 children). But, I could never have served … Army, living to fight on, Marine, expects death. NSFW content must be tagged. No constant Reposts. I'll tell a few stories, maybe you can gain a picture of what I experienced through it, some of this will be specific to differences. No man has too much whisky, too many books, or too much ammunition. I'll say that yes, the Army is a culture change all over. I … [–]556_reasonsMAGTF Planning Dependa 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (1 child). In one of our movements north, we caught up to an Army convoy that was lost and heading into an ambush. Psychic Powers. Even the navy falls under it. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Rule 1. Share on Twitter; Share on Facebook; Share on Reddit; Share on LinkedIn They provide anonymous counseling to individuals, couples and families, and children and adolescents. at some point the Army has had a place they send PS people through so they can get accustomed to the Army and shit. Brendan M. Bialy, the 18-year-old guide of Platoon 2147, Golf Company, 2nd Recruit Training Battalion is from Castle Rock, Colorado. A soldier asked Reddit what kind of ammo this is. Posted online on Reddit under his handle Prufrock451 on August 21, 2011, it describes what might happen if a United States Marine Corps expeditionary unit were somehow transported back to the time of the Roman Empire under Augustus Caesar. … Anyone who risks their lives in a combat field deserves respect. Good write up, seems different than when I was in the army... That being said what was your MOS that you transitioned to? Those with a non-infantry MOS designation train with the Marine Combat Training Battalion. Give us a link from a reputable source instead. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Aside from that just use your knowledge of the ranks (very similar) customs and courtesies, and do the job asked of you. Common Courtesy for Recruiter Meetings . Chaos Space Marines have some of the game’s best psychic powers. This is /r/USMC. Do not post any content which violates OPSEC, COMSEC, INFOSEC, PERSEC (or PII), and do not post or ask about anything classified. The U.S. Army is one of the mightiest fighting forces in … That's not a culture difference that is simply a bad leader. Done special duty assignments, traveled. I've experienced nothing but great leadership my time in the Army. Prior Marine gone 18x here, and me, along with 29 others (infantry and not) got thrown into OSUT because Airborne hold was so backed up. While on libo during Marine Week (after the Crucible), he went to the PX & bought all the shit he rated for his stack. Marines, if all gets killed and yet one Marine makes it through, Marine considers mission, a success. My units on deployments were straight. Can't go into a lot of detail about how Army Tankers and Marine Tankers are different, just that the entire culture of the Army is so much different than the Marines. I've experienced nothing but great leadership my time in the Army. Conclusion. Rule 2. Use your knowledge from the Marines to make yourself and your unit better. Its very weird. That is literally the first time I have ever heard anything coming close to that sentiment... all services have bad leaders, the MC is no exception, what differs I the general motivation. Recognize that discipline is skin deep in the Army. The difference is the Army training system won't allow you to actually lead the troops the way they do in our MOS schools. and join one of thousands of communities. Maybe. [–]Kilo_Victor3523/3536/0931 '09-'17 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children). Rule 4. So I was talking to this Marine and he is in a year and some change. Every army post is run by its own cult. If you have the USMC Combat Action Ribbon do you wear it, get a US Army Combat Action Badge as equivalent, or nothing since there isn't paperwork for the CAB? © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. My understanding from my time in the Reserves is that everything transfers over. Been in almost 9 years. Fifty years later, the veterans reunited to recreate that image. No calls for witch-hunts or "vigilante justice", keep the pitchforks in storage. Note: The /r/USMC moderators reserve the right to moderate the subreddit how we see fit for the good of /r/USMC. … There is a reason (reportedly) that the AF doesn't like taking Marines as Prior Service. Treat the recruiter with the same courtesy that you would give if you were at a … © 2021 United States National Guard ELIGIBILITY. [–]sephstorm[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children), [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children). I got the experience and I leveraged that well when I got out. You MAY have some limited authority to punish troops, it is extremely limited. The Marine Corps was founded on Nov. 10, 1775, and on Nov. 11, the rivalry between Army soldiers and Marines began. That's interesting. NUC, MUC, etc. I give all due respect to the Army. Some fuck head student, a Navy Chief, came in during his off time to fuck with everyone on field day. He's conveniently leaving out the most important detail. That sounds far fetched. Saw so many NCOs fuck themselves over because they expected someone to take care of something they could have done themselves. Got off Active and went straight into Army reserves to a small Det under the MIRC so not much Army stuff really happening as far as training goes and now in the process of trying to get my DD368 signed off to go Active Army. He told me Motor T is being phased out as a whole MOS and those in that MOS are either lat moving or being offered the chance to get out. China, for instance, calls its entire military the People's Liberation Army. I created this video with the YouTube Video Editor (http://www.youtube.com/editor) This is the million dollar question. They pull over on the shoulder like you would in a POV on I-95, leave their rifles and kevlars in their vehicles, have their flak vests open, and start smoking and walking around like their on a break, leaving their vehicles open. Ah yeah, the focus on non combat related MOS's is vastly different than the combat related jobs, all the way from basic training to day to day life of a soldier. they will be moved to the right side. Best advice, have an open mind, be willing to learn new ways to do things you already know. ! [–]sephstorm[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children), [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children). Just show up in your dress blues and fuck my wife, Just duty uniform when you report unless orders specify. They would be checking rooms on Thursdays and doing the initial inspections before telling SSgt our rooms were ready for final check. They were assigned leadership roles in the class by the instructors. Pfc. Classified information that has been "leaked" to the public or otherwise disclosed via unlawful means is still classified. I had NCO's questioning me on whether it was right and I had to show them where it said in the reg it had to go to a certain person. When it did I spent a while waiting for it to get signed. I yelled at an IET troop who fucked off, and next thing I know they burst into tears and run off to cadre, I'm standing in front of a luckily understanding NCO who says that things don't work that way in the Army. As far as a CAR, I'm not sure, but I believe you still wear the ribbon as you didn't earn the CIB or CAB due to not being in the Army. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. To the point of you will have troops tell you "you can only make me do 5 exercises." No blogspam or clickbait articles. Not that army infantry/scouts are the equivalent to that of the Marines, but the culture of army combat troops is much different than say a group of dental hygienist soldiers.. It is horrid for a number of reasons, but understand, TRADOC is NOT the Army. That's right, not issued, donated. For your example 2, what release are you speaking of? Is that even true?! The cadre who had to walk it next door didn't care to do so. Either way you'll go to Ft. Knox, Kentucky. Army - 13 minute 2 mile, 71 pushups, 78 situps Air Force - 9 minute 1.5 mile run, 1 minute pushups and situps Navy - 8.30 1.5 mile run, etc. Yeah that's what I meant by non-pipeliners (pipeliners being those in the main training "pipeline" boot-mct-schoolhouse). Over the next couple of centuries, the inter-branch, verbal slap-boxing evolved into the passionate, “all in good fun” fight we know today. Also, the Army doesn't really allow yelling at IET troops. Rule 8 No porn or gore. As for the deployment patch, I know according to AR 670-1 that I cannot where any deployment patches even with having deployments in the Marines as I wasn't a soldier at that point. It's hard to come by that kind of stuff in the Marines unless it's an actual necessity. In the reddit story, however, Erwin said the Marines would not be resupplied with bullets, batteries, or gasoline from the modern world. Sounds like a bad dream, not a terrifying one but the one where you're in your underwear at school. Reality, war is hell, for real, none of the glamor as falsely … I've personally seen bad leaders. So how to make it through AIT: Relax, your job is to get through, not to be a leader, or to be an NCO or anything. I have a NAM and wear it since I was still awarded everything while in service. There is just so much you can learn by OJT particularly in technical matters. Rule 6. As a transfer, most likely you will be slotted into an MOS-T status. We weren't fucking around. When I say rank doesn't matter, it doesn't. I'm not sure about that. As a result, Chaos psykers like Sorcerers – with their ability to throw out non-faction-gated buff powers like Warptime and Prescience – are some of the game’s best units. Schuehle was also the first commanding officer of the West Coast Marine Special Operations Battalion. You are not there to enforce discipline. I’ve been out since 2016. Please remember, you must meet the MINIMUM prerequisites for the Warrant Officer MOS for which you will apply, or you must request a prerequisite waiver. They just weren't mine. I also found that some of the soldiers were uneasy at first by my presence with them fully expecting me to be loud and angry 24/7. I was Active Marine Corps for 8 years, ~5 years CBRN and the rest was ARFF. [–]Altoids797656217 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child). For days I show up to formation in civis until the First Sergeant manages to scrounge up some old uniforms. [–]Bearded_Wildcard0651 '10-'15 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children). Have fun and keep the hooorah shit to a minimum. I got to my Army AIT (think MOS school), and I have no Army uniforms. When I went through, Marines were not required to go through Army basic, (still the policy today), however for one reason or another I was also not required to go through a transition program. My main concerns are the differences in what to expect or work on prior to this so I'm not completely lost. If you're joining the active duty Army, active duty Marine Corps, Army or Air National Guard, or the Reserve forces (of any of the branches), the recruiter will have more input about job opportunities (more on this in the next chapter). While being a Marine is full of pride honor and commitment, there is a level of camaraderie experienced in the infantry that only those who have been on the front lines can attest to the brotherhood and bond forged in fire and in war. Good guys all, and not for nothing they seem to like working in the Army more. Discipline is skin deep. Said his DI's just laughed about how hard they would've fucked him had they known about it during training. Army AIT belongs to the Training and Doctrine Command AKA TRADOC. Ha, well imagine my surprise when I worked with Marines in a SoF environment. Those dumb hollywood movies and stupid tv military shows, a bunch of b.s. No Lance Corporals, everyone is laid back, but there is still that MC discipline right below the surface. All of your awards will transfer over. promoting terrorism, racist comments, etc). So reading through tons of posts on r/Army I realized that there are many more PS Marines than I expected. Four Marine buddies posed for a photo in 1966 before they all shipped off to fight in the Vietnam war. We were in a firefight just days prior in which 2 Marines were hit with RPGs. [–]556_reasonsMAGTF Planning Dependa 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago* (4 children). Rendered by PID 4379 on r2-app-090cd7c5c0a7401ca at 2021-05-19 21:39:08.338024+00:00 running c993943 country code: JP. I was Active Marine Corps for 8 years, ~5 years CBRN and the rest was ARFF. The US has the largest marine corps by number of active soldiers. After Deployment A mental wellness resource for Service Members returning from deployment, Veterans, and Military Families - 866-966-1020. I recall … We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Your rank really doesn't mean shit in TRADOC. Line units are generally pretty tight, from what I hear, but I'll admit to not being familiar with their tactical standards. That was one of the WTF moments from the invasion. ), a Marine officer who had a seat at the table from 2002 to 2005 when the groundwork was laid for a Marine component to SOCOM. Waivers are not needed for preferred qualifications. He never said a word until graduation. My command had to ask me how the packet was supposed to be processed. The only people who really matter are the cadre and civilian instructors at the school house. The Defense Center of Excellence (DCoE) - 1-866-966-1020. And there is little accountability in some areas. Very true. Marines see how the Army puts combat in basic training. It's problematic but not a good representation of trigger pullers. Watch this US Marine attempt the new Army Combat Fitness Test. Check yourself before you non-rec yourself. Make sure you preface everything by saying "when i was a Marine...", Good luck though, not sure your rank or MOS but keep an open mind and I'm sure you'll be fine. what happens when you lose and make up excuses for it?? You already know what to do. I was in the Invasion of Iraq with TF Tarawa. Army, all about TEAM, what is best for TEAM. (2) Personnel turnover. Marines--thinking about switching to Army? I.e., promotions, uniforms, regs? Haha, as long as I can make sure everyone knows I'll be content. You are a soldier. The moment that defined the Army in my mind was a resupply at Kandahar - the fob got locked down, later found out that a sgt was giving a class on the saw shot someone accidentally. This is a motherfucking invasion and that's what these clowns are doing, back on the block. Avoid all political/religious discussions and soapboxing on threads unless it's directly related to the USMC or military and even then we ask that you keep it civil. A soldier can literally tell an E6 to fuck off and chances are the cadre will give them some physical training punishment, maybe knock them back a phase (loose off base privileges). Rule 7. Probably one of the best ways to put it: The combat roles tend to take more of the Marine approach to training, standards and discipline where your support or non combat related MOS's are essentially The "Navy" of the army. But it was too late at that point... ex.2. Organizations that help Marines/families when in need. I assume that normally this is where most people get their Army uniforms. I didn't go, so when I was shipping at MEPS, I was in civi's. Not saying you can't trust anyone, but understand that the Army is very careerist at the NCO ranks. First level of leadership between junior Marines (student) and SNCOs (instructors). There's shitty units in every branch. Since exiting, Jeff has served as a non-profit manager in the area of foster care and adoption. The marine corps makes it hard for career marines to find progression and stay in. However, once I got out and into the veteran community, it seems like Rangers and Cav units had their shit together on an individual level, but their camaraderie is nothing like the Marine Corps'. There is no general organizational pride. I couldn't get an IT job without IT on my resume, so I went to where I knew I could get guaranteed IT experience and an additional cert. Every training environment I've been in or around didn't allow permanent party or non-pipeliners to mess with recruits or pipeliners so I don't think that's exclusive to the Army. It's dependent. Did you have NCO's willing to teach you the shit you needed to know that you would have learned as a troop or did you need to teach yourself everything? When I went through, Marines were not required to go through Army basic, (still the policy today), however for one reason or another I was also not required to go through a transition program. As someone who is looking to go Officer in another branch I wish there were more like this. What It Takes; How to Join; Basic Training; Prior Service; Fitness Calculator I think he means NCOs who lat-moved to the MOS. If you don't know, you are fucking yourself. I assume that normally this is where most people get their Army … You will go to school with the IET (first time troops) soldiers, but you will live separately and are under a different unit with other transfers (people coming from one army mos to another). "Mess with the best, die like the rest" Oorah!!! Every Marine reaches the same basic combat training level because every Marine is a rifleman with combat knowledge. The Marine Corps is moving too slowly to establish a formal leadership education system for Marines similar to the Army’s NCOES, particularly for Grunts. My wife (AF) went to a joint school as an E6 (well E7 select, not that means much) and, aside from her class duties, she wasn't allowed to tell anyone else anything. [–]_From_The_Internet_0656 2000-2004 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child), [–]plipyplopÓ__Ò 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child). Marines--thinking about switching to Army? Calling them incompetent and dirt bags (over a piece of foil under a refrigerator and not mopping a floor another class was tasked to do.) Onto the RA, things are fairly similar on the everyday environment. Dealing with PTSD and/or having thoughts about suicide? Accept that standards are different. Simultaneously, I felt so at ease since I didn't feel like at any moment I was about to be corrected on the spot for something. Since this is the case I figured I would seek some tips and guidance from either PS Marines or any of you that have had PS Marines that worked for, or over, you. [–]sephstorm[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children). I served in the Corps for about 4 years then after a short recess went and joined the Army. Marine, what gets the mission done. I was the only Marine at a TAD on an Army base some years ago and it was kinda weird. Know by name who has your paperwork in hand. Marines always show up in Alpha's (pickle suit or whatever you may want to call it), just curious if this is something not the same for the Army. You'll have to check the awards reg to figure out the order of precedence when wearing Army and Marine awards. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. [–]madderdaddy2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Still want to do something more. China has the largest army by number of active soldiers. Every inprocessing ritual is different. What exactly an army does is dependent upon the country. DStressLine for Marines, attached Sailors, and families when it's needed most - 1-877-476-7734. Give An Hour GAH is dedicated to meeting the mental health needs of the troops and families affected by their time of service. Last year Fort Benning exchanged an Army Drill Sergeant for an Air Force Military Training Instructor to learn how each service trains their new recruits. Wasn't a big deal. I'm talking condition 1, buttstock in the shoulder, thumb on safety, and index straight and off the trigger. INTER-SERVICE TRANSFER PROGRAM ALLOWING YOU TO CONTINUE TO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY. I've seen it. Off the top of my head, I recall the Army had 12 month deployments with a 1:1 dwell ratio compared to 6 month deployments with a 1:2 dwell ratio for the Marine Corps, during the height of OIF/OEF. I work for TRADOC as a civilian now, it's a God awful shit show. I also think the biggest difference that brings the enjoyment of the Army is the amount of money and training opportunities there are. Everybody takes care of themselves. Yea it seems just from reading what everyone posts on r/Army it will be a huge variation of sitting around doing nothing to constantly out and about with not much down time. Be civil with others but also don't forget to have thick skin. Rule 5. [–]DEXetherI fell out 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children). I still really like the military.
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